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" I have spent the weekend & today observing MAFF slaughter tactics, behaviour & their DELIBERATE transference of the disease..." READ NICK'S FULL POSTING

The Inbox for June 6 (latest entries nearest the top)........vet speaks of the wrong Maff are doing__new pits in Powys__slaughtermen being called down to Pendle from Cumbria __renewed concern about Forest of Dean activity __more strange rumours about cow tongues __Dr North advises legal action for protection for sheep, FMD "probably in UK since last September" __ " Mr Chad" speaks out about blood testing __Jim Scudamore's answer -"not at the moment"__peaceful demonstration against the killing in Gloucester at noon__slaughtermen and workers at ADAS research centre (e.g.testing new animal vaccines) near Newcastle asked to sign Official Secrets Act__

June 6 2001

Last evening a very helpful vet spoke with me on the phone for a long while. He realises that MAFF are doing wrong. The partner of the practice has left the MAFF work because he knows that it is wrong. The vet told me that sheep are not a natural host for FMD. He has not seen FMD in his clients' animals. it is unmistakeable and he obviously felt that other diseases were being wrongly diagnosed as FMD. Cattle show blisters with Infectious Bovine Rhinotrachionitus. Sheep have Orf which is virulent this year in lambs. Farmers weekly has this in an article. Foot rot in sheep. Very damp weather conditions this Winter and Spring.

He mentioned a Brussels directive for a 10 KM CULL. Could someone check this out? maybe someone knows where to go to get this information.

June 6 2001

(Powys) Yesterday we came across stockpiles of railway sleepers tucked away in a field not far from us. The vegetation is very overgrown and it looks as if they have been there a long while. Two fields away two large pits are being built. Our area was culled out months ago and there are hardly any animals left. it is very sinster. I have contacted Richard North and he is going to ask a reporter to come here. I have also contacted our Western Mail.

June 6 2001

.....rumours are rife around Penrith, that slaughter teams are cutting tongues from cattle and then putting them in fields with clean cattle in, also snowie drivers are throwing food into roadside fields after contaminating them from slaughtered cattle (could this be for job preservation?)

June 6 2001

(On Maff site it says) "Rumours of a mass cull... There are no plans for large-scale increases in the slaughter regime (4 June). More" But when I click on the link there isn't another page. They are not promising to stop the cull. I would have thought that continuing at the same rate will be bad enough, no need to have "large-scale" increases, small-scale will stil be dire.

June 6 2001

.. is there anyway we can pin MAFF down in a solid undeniable statement that there is not going to be a mass cull after the election, before Thursday. There isn't a lot of time. Forest of Dean- we drove along the Speech House road, where they killed all the Forest sheep that they could find, in April, - brand new police blue and white tape everywhere,the lane down past Speech House we stopped at, brand new padlock on the gate down that track, and very recent heavy Caterpiller tractor tracks going in to that lane, Direct evidence from the Forest that a contractor, (lorry driver) has been approached by MAFF to make his lorry available from Saturday. I am mystified, there is nothing left here to kill, except the deer and rabbits

June 6 2001

(Re Dr Richard' North's speech at Penrith last night) An educational evening [rather a long safari but worth it]. He seems to think that we should keep at it and that if the dam doesn't burst before the election it will burst very soon after it. Anyone in doubt in the meantime should take some sort of legal action to protect their sheep etc.

A long explanation of stages of epidemics and how viruses are "attenuated" [weakened]. E.g. "Killer flu" in Hong Kong is a 2 day mild illness when it reaches the UK. He said that F&M had probably been in the UK long before it was publicly acknowledged .....[perhaps last September?] and that many sheep had been showing some signs of illness [footrot etc.] for some time.

June 6 2001

MrCHAD believe there will be a large release of these Results (i.e.blood test results) immediately after the election. He thinks they may Well have been held back intentionally to provide deniability In the run up to the election. .......will then announce that it is Essential to re-establish Britains F&M free status. ...... will use terminology like we are removing dangerous infected animals & also endangered animals, to re-establish Britains F&M free status Which means: We are culling as many animals as possible based on flimsy evidence and biased veterinary opinion the fact that one in the area has signs of a positive antibody, inspite of the fact that we know that NO test is 100percent reliable and we will be culling ALL animals in a contiguous area of (X) miles even though we know that there is little or no justification or need in veterinary terms.

Removing now means Culling
Dangerous now means where we have an excuse
Infected now means possible antibody within the area
Endangered now means within (X) miles of anything we can find an excuse to kill on the grounds given above
MrCHAD does NOT expect.. the EU, MAFF, The NFU & The Government to use the word CULL after the election.

June 6 2001

Rumours abound and probably improve as they are passed on, but can anyone please either scotch or confirm the following: Three people, including my local newsagent/shopkeeper have told me that the press has had "D" notices slapped on as regards reporting FMD - can any journalist confirm whether this is true please? It is widely assumed that vets working for MAFF are subject to the official secrets act, as are the army. I have been told that lorry drivers and site workers have also had to sign the official secrets act. Does anyone know if this is true? ....................(answer) Only regular full-time MAFF staff vets have signed the Official Secrets Act AFAIK - it's liong been part of their contract/conditions of employment. TVIs have not , as far as I know, - at least two have confirmed to me that they have not. I have heard that some ADAS people have recently been asked to sign.....(another) Can confirm that Slaughtermen are required to sign Official Secrets Act - heard this from a member of the Press. It would appear that some of them have refused to sign.

June 6 2001

(Re Jim Scudamore's answer on Today Programme about govt planned culling after election) His choice of words 'at the moment' in answer to a question about further slaughtering - told the whole story I though.

June 6 2001

12 noon Wednesday 6 June at MAFF HQ Elmbridge court, Gloucester. Peaceful demo - Stop the Slaughter. Anyone who can get there, PLEASE COME.

June 6 2001

The Inbox for June 5 (latest entries nearest the top) Form A to be changed to cover vets where culls made without evidence__RCVS say no complaints filed against Hoffe vet __ Exit poll at Drybrook in Forest of Dean with BBC __The Bennetts say "Thanks!"__ Light a beacon June 6th__getting two blood samples to be sure of results__should one fill in agricultural survey?__Today Programme today __3 ways to stop the madness__blame government not Maff__Dr North in Penrith tonight __report from Nick__ reaction to William Hague's warnings in Cheltenham__ will sheep and lambs be shot on Exmoor as in Forest of Dean?__ vets' and soldiers' continued support of cull suggests "country is run by mad men, supported by the ignorant."

June 5 2001

I am informed that MAFF is in the process of developing a new Form A that vets will be able to sign in such circumstances - as outlined in the document ( such as those within the 3km areas where pre-emptive cull action took place, where the vet did not identify clinical signs of foot and mouth disease but where Form A was served and slaughter of stock subsequently took place) - keep an eye out for it. Meanwhile my understanding of the situation is that vets who sign the current Form A for premises where they do not identify clinical signs of foot and mouth disease and slaughter of stock subsequently takes place are on very dodgy ground and risk disciplinary action by the RCVS for false certification. Meanwhile you may wish to encourage farmers who feel they have been issued a 'dodgy' Form A to make a complaint against the vet who signed it to the RCVS. The complaint must be made by the owner of the stock affected and name the individual vet who signed the form.

Jane Barribal at farmtalking.com can advise farmers where/how to get the appropriate complaint RCVS complaint forms.

June 5 2001

The RCVS inform me that they have received no complaints against a certain Vicky Cleghorn, the woman involved in the murder of Mrs Hoffe's sheep. Can this be true? I have e-mailed them about this woman but I am sure others have firmer grounds for complaint. Life is back in the Dark Ages for our animal friends and we must at least make sure that their tormentors stand accused.

June 5 2001

The BBC have been given permission by the Returning Officer for the Forest of Dean constituency, to film and conduct an exit poll outside Drybrook polling station on Thursday. I think that they have picked Drybrook as it is in the heart of the Forest, badly hit by FMD and want to show if this has any bearing on the result. They cant show anything during the day, but if they get some good footage and interviews they can broadcast it after the close of the poll. Anyone in the Forest who can get to Drybrook during the day, with posters etc, I am afraid I cant because I have to do the poll all day in Lydney.

June 5 2001

Here is the best news ever!! You kindly wrote about the plight of Pippa and Bella on your site about a month ago, the two pet goats that belong to Mr and Mrs Bennett in Tedburn St Mary Devon,well we got in contact with our local MP Mrs Angela Browning and explained the case to her and she wrote to MAFF and Lady Harman and demanded a blood test. They agreed to do one and now the goats have been saved. This really was a case of the little people standing up for what they believe in. Mr and Mrs Bennet would like to thank the many people who wrote to them or called them to give their support,it really helped them to be strong during that terrible time. Thank you all again,they really couldn't have done it without you.

June 5 2001

FFA are asking farmers countrywide to join in their 'Light a Beacon' protest on 6 June by lighting a Beacon at 10 pm. This protest is to highlight, although it does not need highlighting to the farming communities that have been devastated by it, but to the general public that this government are hell bent on pulling the wool (excuse the pun) over their eyes re this epidemic. We will be using the very tool that has destroyed so many thousands of animals. We urge everybody who has a high point on their farm to build a Beacon - we already have great support for this and the more we can get the better. We will be advising the press on Tuesday of where the Beacons will be and would ask if you could e mail us so that we can send a detailed plan to the press. Please e mail secretary@farmersforaction.fsnet.co.uk

Tel 01291 690224 Fax 01291 698984 with details of your Beacon

...........(another)I think I might have to have an effigy of dear old Phoney Tony Doesn't care Blair on mine.

June 5 2001

I was visited yesterday by a MAFF vet, without notice, to "discuss" blood testing of my sheep. Hard sell, more like. After 4 weeks of silence, there were 10 phone calls and 2 unannnounced visits which in itself makes me suspicious. Anything to do with 56 days coming up? She said MAFF was being very open with nothing to hide (Yeah. Right). I said I wanted a certificate from her saying which animals she had been in contact with during the last 72 hours, and found out they were just going from farm to farm like mine under "D" notices without a spell in the office for 72 hours. Just normal disinfecting. I said I wanted the same amount of blood that she took, so I could do my own tests (from Genesis), and she said she couldn't give it to me. I asked why not, and she said to stand up in court they would have to be completely separate samples, BUT taken at the same time. So I would have to ask my own vet to be here at the same time as the MAFF vet, and the sheep has to have its jugular pierced twice. Try asking a vet to come and do that and then not work in his own practice for 3 days! Is this another example of MAFF trussing us up like turkeys? They seem to want to make it so hard we'll give up. Except we won't. I am now trying to get a MAFF vet and trusted TVI (which I pay for) here at the same time. The good news: they don't test unweaned lambs.

June 5 2001

Today programme - John Humphrys interviews Jim Scudamorehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listen/listen.shtml

June 5 2001

To any farmers reading this site - Are you filling in MAFF's 2001 Agricultural survey, due in shortly. I feel very reluctant to assist MAFF in any way - as far as I am concerned they have lost all right to our respect and co-operation. Indeed for all I know they will simply use the information to bring the right number of bullets to kill my sheep!! Surely if ALL farmers decided to make MAFF's life as difficult as possible, questioning every document received, using confusing and delaying tactics when ever possible presumably the ministry would in the end collapse = passive non co-operation could be a weapon? IF I do fill in the form I feel I should sign it with the addition along the lines of 'signed with more accuracy and integrity than you have shown with regard to FMD figures' .......(another) I too wondered what to do about my IACS form and felt I did not want to take their dirty money. However, my boss suggested I did take the money and use it to help pay for action against them.............(another) I think it's safe to fill in the MAFF forms. They are so inefficient that they are coming looking for dairy cows on farms that gave up milking years ago.....................(another) I see from the inbox, someone else has baulked at returning the Agricultural Census Form. I am afraid I wrote on the covering letter, something to the effect that I did not trust the Minister of Agriculture as the data controller with respect to the Data Protection Act; and added something about believing, in the light of recent experience, that he would use the data to further the destruction of traditional farming in Britain. I then returned the letter and the blank form in the envelope provided........(another) I think the appropriate response is to decline politely until they stop killing animals. It must be so handy for them to know where every new lamb and piglet and every house cow is stashed away when they're drawing up their culling plans. I shall be interested to see if they then arrive on our doorsteps with an armed posse to force us to fill the forms in!

June 5 2001

Other than the "rural revolution" that many see brewing, I can see three ways to stop this unnecessary death.
1. Scientifically. Find some (more) scientists who can discredit maff's methods and "science" and get them some publicity.
2. Legally. There must be some way of keeping "cattle rustlers" off people's property. Some way of "getting your injunction in first".
3. Politically. The "window" for this is the next 24 hours. Somehow the Labour Party "teflon" has to be dented. If you have any info about maff calamities or manoeuvres, get it to the Tory party or the press asap with the hardest evidence that you can find, including photos.

June 5 2001

So Tim Yeo has now said on Radio 4 that he believes the government is poised to do a mass cull, is there a conspiracy? Can I make an observation. Phoney Tony will cull MAFF. We need to talk about the Government not MAFF as otherwise we are playing into his hands. He will say I am scrapping MAFF and the farmers are right behind me. After all MAFF is the Government or the Government is MAFF. I am not saying there shouldn't be a change but lets make it clearer who is to blame.

June 5 2001

TONIGHT - DR RICHARD NORTH (FMD EXPERT) & TOM LOWTHER (UKIP) WILL HOLD A MEETING IN PENRITH AT MERCHANTS BAR, THE WHAREHOUSE, PENRITH 1930 HRS. TONIGHT 5 JUNE! Be there...definitely worth listening to.

June 5 2001

I have spent the weekend & today observing MAFF slaughter tactics, behaviour & their DELIBERATE transference of the disease. READ NICK'S FULL POSTING

June 5 2001

Seems like the Tories, like the rest of us, might think that all of this circumstantial evidence amounts to something. We've heard the glib Maff denials many times before. [Do any of us who've watched this closely believe a word that they say anymore? They have what might be described as a "credibility problem".] Of course there'll be a cull. It seems that the disease is so entrenched in the sheep population that there's no alternative.

June 5 2001

I find it quite amazing that anybody keeps on killing healthy animals at the rate these guys are doing it. Why they don't just ALL (the vets) say......bugger this, it is not right, and I'm laying down my arms. Let MAFFia do the killing if they want, I can earn a living curing animals, not killing them.

I would like to hear the arguments, from the vets, of this continued animal holocaust. There are things in the armed forces called "illegal orders" and I'm wondering why the Generals are not saying, "these government orders are against EU Law, why are we doing their dirty work against our own people......the orders are "illegal" let's call a stop to it and sod this "Free of FMD" status that has cost us 50 times more than the bloody export market is worth ! We are soldiers trained to fight an enemy.....I see NO enemy ! Pack up lads, were going back to camp". Too simple I suppose ? The bloody country is run by mad men, supported by the ignorant.

June 5 2001

It sounds as if they have the same plans for Exmoor as they did for The Forest Of Dean. They eliminated all the free roaming sheep. At Easter they finished the massive cull but some had escaped. They then employed rangers to shoot down all the remaining sheep and lambs. I telephoned the Forest Enterprise last week to complain but they assured me that they had finished two weeks ago. They tried to justify their actions by saying that these last few sheep had blood tested positive for foot and mouth. However there is no evidence of this. The way they handled this operation is a bit of a mystery to me. All I know is these sheep were hunted down by men with guns. Please try and stop this happening on Exmoor.

June 5 2001

The Inbox for June 4 (latest entries nearest the top)..Maff culling Shetland in July__ attention Worcestershire __small farmers who are suffering__ water buffalo now killed __new area of Yorkshire Kirkby Malzeard __still no payments for Cumbrian farmers__encouraging advice__Carlisle Lab MP calls for public enquiry__animal restrictions back on eastern side of Penrith Motorway Alston area __ understanding expressed for those who show no concern yet __ forced imports of milk/German yoghurt while we throw milk away__Cumbria the "carcasse dustbin" __teams at work in Holsworthy __frustration at legal system being sidestepped__ frustration at being unable to help because of work__ police and killing team breaks into Town Close farm Knowstone because of antibodies in one sheep (see Open Letters page for press release on situation in Devon today)__Teams descending on Seahouses __Spokesman for Maff says "the number of calves and lambs slaughtered is not relevant."__ Maff's predetermined itinerary __concern about "unnecessary" welfare culls in Norfolk __ __Update on Town Close Farm, Knowstone (Devon) __ danger for unsheared sheep __more phone lines for Maff in Buxton __phone call offering infected sheep for £10,000 __Tory candidate tells how Maff bought leaky Tow Law for £2.5 million without advice from environment agency__another mention of Richard Haddock's knowledge of FMD case last November

June 4 2001

A neighbour of ours, a Mr. Murphy, has tried to book a holiday in July in the only Hotel in UNST one of the Shetland Isles. Unfortunately, to his great surprise, he was unable to obtain a booking for July. He was informed by the Hotel that it has been completely booked by MAFF for the month of July.

June 4 2001

Attention Worcs...It has been leaked to me today Maff want to bring carcases to Throckmorton burial site from Yorkshire . Please ring and make your feelings known . All places between here and Yorkshire should start worrying too.

June 4 2001

The farmer who commented about hysterical - I notice he didn't mention the alternative of vaccine - and I am curious as to the amount of compensation he will have received. It is the small farmers who are suffering.

June 4 2001

I saw a mention of the water buffalo, but did not notice confirmation (as in press) that the 100 buffalo were now slaughtered - very sad

June 4 2001

There was a case today in a "new" area - Kirkby Malzeard which is just south of Masham. This could cause problems for Nidderdale and surrounding area. Need to be on alert for further activity here - could prove another future "hotspot" in Yorkshire.

June 4 2001

Farmers in Cumbria who lost their animals 12 weeks ago have been told that MAFF have lost their paperwork which included the valuation report. No payment still for hundreds of farms that were some of the first to lose stock.

June 4 2001

I feel/think/believe we're only helpless if we allow ourselves to be lured/lulled into that belief by Govt/MAFF - which is what they wish us to believe.

We won't win every 'battle' but we have won some and could win the 'war'. One thing's certain - we'll lose if we give up the 'fight'.

June 4 2001

Eric Martlew the Labour MP for Carlisle (but I believe under threat from the Con candidate) has called for a public enquiry and said that this must never be allowed to happen again in Cumbria. Also all animal restrictions have been put back into place on the eastern side of the Penrith Motorway Alston area.

June 4 2001

We have been drinking imported milk for ages. The farmers around here have told me repeatedly that the milk on the supermarket shelves does not all come from this Country. A lot of the milk sold in the South apparently comes from France. I have to stand up and be honest and say I have never questioned where my milk came from - I just buy it. I do not eat meat so I never have cause to look at meat packaging. Yes, I agree with you once we have no farming it will be too late to turn back the clock - there will be no going back. But I think we are all slightly guilty in as much that farming in this Country has been on the down for a long time - and until this Government started taking and slaughtering healthy animals I never really took it all on board - can anyone one else hand on heart say they felt like they do now, six months ago regarding farming. I knew that the price farmers received for their milk was at an all time low and impossible to live on - but I did not go and do anything about it - or even try to. So how can we expect people that are not Country minded to come out and join the fight................(another) To contributor re milk from abroad - A lot of us are aware - but some may not be- therefore worth reminding that we are FORCED by Brussels to import 10% (I think correct figure) of our milk / products - I find it crazy that there is so much German Yoghurt on the shelves, after the cost of shipping, while we have to pour excess milk down the drain - MADNESS REIGNS!!! - Regards - and KEEP UP THE HYSTERIA _ it needs something rather than the 'bland' acceptance of that writer.

June 4 2001

And Yorkshire carcasses have been brought into Hespin Wood according to Radio Cumbria. [50 truckloads from Settle over the weekend]. Local NFU [Nick Utting] has objected to Great Orton being used for non-Cumbrian carcasses. This is ridiculous...they must have some land-fills in Yorkshire. Or are they killing so many there that they don't know what to do with them? And Cumbria becomes the "carcass dustbin". .............(another) I think they are there already!! (i.e. Great Orton) NAFF have been killing around here all weekend & now everything is gone, for the moment, I intend to follow one of the lorries later. Will let you know.

June 4 2001

(re Knowstone)If you had heard the police and MAFF last night, they promised to back off and led all the protesters into a false sense of security and of course with assurances they went home.

Now the next door neighbour Mr Phillips stands to lose his sheep as contiguous to cattle that haven't even got the disease. Mr Phillips wife, who bred the sheep, died of cancer on Wednesday. How much more can they put him through.

I want to and cannot be there. It appears foot and mouth is back in Holsworthy (next to the carcass holding pit, surprise surprise). I am trying to find out more. MAFF, the army, slaughter teams and carcass lorries were spotted going to Holsworthy. I was rung by our local garage who told me some of them had stopped in unmarked cars to buy snacks at about 11.30am and told them cheerily that they were off to Holsworthy. I spoke to the Heart of Devon who knew nothing about any problems in Holsworthy and they asked me to investigate. After driving round and round I managed to find a number of unmarked cars, and a carcass lorry just inside the entrance to a farm on the A388 Holsworthy Beacon (hiding behind a hedge!!) there are no foot and mouth restriction signs at the entrance of this farm.

I know the back roads so went off to see what I could find. Discovered a MAFF tractor driving at speed. Followed it down the back roads. He then went down towards Honeycroft and there I found the road closed foot and mouth signs on the road leading to the back of this farm. Obviously I didn't go further and I have now come home.

June 4 2001

Why is our legal system allowing this to happen - surely MAFF are not holding ALL the cards. I know that MAFF sneaked in early this morning - but could not a legal injunction have been served to keep them off until it had been legally determined one way or the other in the courts. This is MAFF, why are we still not playing them at their own game. I feel so sorry for these people - but someone must have reckoned on MAFF doing the dirty. Yorkshire Post Monday 4 June. After the confirmed case in Ilkley this weekend, the YP has reported that another 5 farms in the area have been culled out already. I'm so frustrated sitting here at work. Got to get started on distributing legal packs as soon as I can get out of here at 5pm.

Keep up with the updates in the inbox! It keeps me going to know that there are SOME people out there who care enough to take action

June 4 2001

From BBC report ...Town Court is farmed by Gordon and Thelma Wilmitts - they've already seen Maff denied an injunction to take their cattle in a contigous cull. They say Maff vets have been regularly checking the cattle, and have found no sign of the disease. But a blood test on one of their sheep slaughtered in the contigous cull has been positive - and Maff want to move in to take the cattle. The alleged outbreak of foot and mouth disease at Town Close in Knowstone is the first in the county for seven days and brings the total to 167.

Officials went to the farm to begin the culling operation yesterday and were turned away. However around six Maff officials and around a dozen police broke the barricade in the early hours of this morning and the cull of the cattle is now underway. ...........(another) Listening to that report made me recall what a Spanish Vet working as a TVI said when he went to inspect some sheep. 'If the Spanish people had of beentreated half as bad as you all have been - they would have shot the culprits'............(another) MAFF and police broke through barricades at 6.20 am to avoid going to court at 10am

June 4 2001

I received the following message last night. "A farmer in Seahouses told me that MAFF vets are coming today and tomorrow to test all the animals on the coastal farms to see if they have F&M" Archie spoke to the butcher in Seahouses this morning, who said that 8 MAFF vets (only one of which was English) visited his neighbour yesterday, looking for anyone harbouring pet lambs, pigs, goats etc. Please pass this information on to anyone who needs to be aware.

June 4 2001

Just read this on FWi (Farmers Weekly interactive): "Our people in the field compile the statistics that we need to combat this disease, and the number of calves and lambs slaughtered is not relevant." A MAFF spokesman saying why they have not included lambs and calves in the statistics. Hundreds of thousands of young livestock are excluded. "The figures we publish do not include lambs and calves," he said. The spokesman added: "Animals that can't stand on their own feet are not counted because they might have died anyway." Why? How many lambs and calves does he think we farmers kill every day?

June 4 2001

maff are booking hotels in advance, not because they are predicting new outbreaks of the disease, but because they have an itinerary worked out already, not sure what the response to this should be; I think the only answer is to make farmers aware of the situation and hope that as many as possible deny acces to Maff to carry out tests. Legally Maff have right of entry, but if enough do it, they can't take us all to court.

June 4 2001

Regarding the pyre lorries, apparently there's loads of welfare culls happening in East Anglia, according to a who friend has dealings with people in the Bury St Edmunds area (south of Thetford). As a former farmer who has rescued farm animals of her own, she can't understand why there should be a need for welfare culls, the grass is doing well, there's plenty of food. In fact she thinks it's rather suspicious.

June 4 2001

( received in email from Cullmaff.com) ..news of events at Town Close Farm, Knowstone. This is the Wilmot's land, that was run across by the panicking limousin bullocks during the bungled slaughter attempt three weeks ago. The hundred-odd sheep that were "in contact" with these bullocks were slaughtered by agreement (owned by a third party, on keep at Town Close Farm) but the Wilmot's cattle were saved at the High Court by Alayne Addy - see last Sunday's message for details.

BUT guess what? MAFF have suddenly produced blood test results on the slaughtered sheep (from three weeks ago) showing that ONE was positive. They have therefore declared the farm an Infected Premises and arrived in force today to slaughter the cattle. Alayne has been through all the legal arguments with MAFF i.e. more than 21 days, one out of a hundred-plus is not a sufficient sample, no tests on the cattle etc. but they remain adamant that they have the right to kill, not only these cattle, but the five contiguous farms as well!

Fortunately John Gouriet and supporters from the protest march in Exeter today transferred to the scene late this afternoon. Alongside strong support from the local villagers, they were able to turn back the combined army, police and MAFF prescence by blocking the only access and by powerful argument. No-one can predict what will happen tomorrow - certainly there will be furious legal activity but the first priority is to hold the farm gate against entry.

PLEASE turn up in person if you possibly can tomorrow, any time from dawn onwards - we must prevent this disaster from happening until at least all the legal avenues have all been exhausted. If this farm can be saved, then so can the contiguous ones. Town Close Farm is within half-a-mile of the Winslades at Beech Grove Farm (close to Owlaborough Farm that is marked on the Ordnance Survey map).

June 4 2001

Not shearing will certainly kill sheep, and very nastily, stuck on their backs with their eyes pecked out by crows and magpies, and eaten alive by maggots with fly strike.

June 4 2001

MAFF have ordered MORE phone lines For their use in Buxton and reports from 30  50 new lines have been heard

June 4 2001

Past Gretna, everything appears back to normal, or so it appears to a traveler doing 70mph. On arriving in Scotland Nr Kyle of Lochalsh, a friend told me he'd been offered 100% infective FMD by an anonymous caller in return for £10,000 He has 50/100 sheep, goats and makes own cheese & dairy produce. Sales are down £5,000 this year. His reply to person offering FMD was that as all farmers know this would be a waste of time as we were now into summer the Ultra Violet light would render the virus harmless, but then he thought why do they want to offer me FMD? Had no way of checking the authenticity of the caller, 1471 had been disabled.

Then we went to Hexham, 15 miles from Heddon on the Wall. Learned from a Tory election candidate that Northumberland CC plan to make an example of Mr Waugh, even though no real proof exists. He also knows (via professional life in property) the person who sold burial the site at Tow Law for M£2.5 to MAFF so they could dump culled animals in it. Said it's well known the site has over 300 mine shafts under it and would leak as soon as anything was put in it, but MAFF wanted the deal done in 3 days and he said he could do it. No advice taken from environment agency. Same Tory has also seen MAFF invoice for railway sleepers imported to Hull in November. It gets worse doesn't it!

From what I see the outbreak seems to be creeping closer but is devastating the dales and has now hit the other side of the Pennines at Gisburn & animals have been killed now at Barrowford near Burnley & Nelson.

June 4 2001

An NFU delegate from the West Country, Mr.(Richard) Haddock, who is not only well known as The past Devon NFU Chairman but also fought his fishy friend Gill for leadership revealed much in a meeting overheard By MrCHADs ears in the wall. When asked about F&M being in Britain before Feb. 19th. CONFIRMED that at least one herd was slaughtered and buried in the West Country. Haddock tapped his nose and CONFIRMED these animals HAD been slaughtered and buried IN NOVEMBER. Haddock thereby CONFIRMED that The NFU knew about F&M in the West Country and of the SLAUGHTER of animals and their burial IN NOVEMBER.

June 4 2001

The Inbox for June 3 (latest entries nearest the top).....preference for British meat, suggestion that pressure must be brought to bear on supermarkets __water buffalo affected __FMD approaching Macclesfield? __suggestion that an NFU Council member aware of FMD outbreak in November__Exmoor rifle marksmen allowance of ammunition increased from 150 to 2000 rounds __ a thought about overstocking__ report from Worcester rally__ praise for Dr Richard North and UKIP__ how many farmers must be feeling __ sheep with FMD antibodies __ advance bookings of hotels etc. is in order to plan for antibody testing on huge scale__ the Dales being cleared of all livestock__ lorries not sealed __renderers still making profits

June 3 2001

There seem to be a lot more articles in the papers now setting out the fears you have been expressing about what is likely to happen after the election. I think the message is beginning to get through but until a lot more people are directly affected by it there will not be the sort of outcry that Blair will listen to. He is unlikely to have to answer questions from members of the public on TV again for a long time. I thought he was put under a lot of pressure last time and I'm sure he will make sure he avoids the stress of the experience again. Unfortunately there are not enough people who really care about animals. Too many people seem to want cheap food (or have been conditioned into expecting it). I would much rather we produced meat only for home consumption and stopped importing (or exporting if that means we cannot vaccinate against F&M) We dont want massive farms producing GM modified food. Perhaps we should be finding ways to put pressure on the big supermarkets rather than wasting energy on the hopeless task of attacking the government but that means educating the public so that they exert pressure before its too late.

June 3 2001

Just heard that 100 water buffalo in Long Preston Yorkshire have F&M. Rally in Carlisle was headlines on BBC North radio news.

June 3 2001

Just had a mail from a friend near Buxton Derbyshire who has a small holding, she says there is a confirmed case on Ceefax at Rainow which is 9 miles out of the Peak Park heading towards Macclesfield does anybody know anything about this?................(answer) This was a confirmed case for 2 June - Mr G Beard of Billinge Head Farm (no idea where that is) with animals at Rainow Low Farm, Rainow, Macclesfield - 24 cattle. Just had a customer in the shop who also mentioned the water buffalo near Skipton.

June 3 2001

by email copied from From Farmers for Action:

"3.06.01 Apparently, Richard Haddock, National Farmers Union Council member, has acquired information that FMD was diagnosed in sheep in November and that these animals were destroyed and buried. As a council member of the NFU we feel certain that his peers in Shaftesbury Avenue are also aware of this. We would urge Richard to make this information public by way of a statement in the farming and national press, as we feel he has an obligation to his members, certainly in the South West to disclose this information.

"If these details are true, then it would appear that the NFU are indeed puppets of the government as we have always suggested. As NFU President, Mr Ben Gill maintains he represents the majority of British farmers, therefore he must make sure this information is made public.

June 3 2001

Also from Farmers for Action
"Exmoor - marksmen have allocations increased We have been told today by a professional marksman on Exmoor that the Police are visiting all marksmen in Devon and in some cases are increasing the rounds of ammunition they are allowed to possess for each rifle they own from 150 to 2,000 rounds. He tells us that in the last few days he has had his allocation increased to that number for each of the 5 rifles he owns. One has to ask the question what is about to happen on Exmoor? Again, are the NFU aware of this? - if they are why are they not telling their members in the Devon area?"

June 3 2001

I think a similar logic is being applied to the cull policy now being used, just like the beef market, when we regain our FMD free staus, who will want to buy from us, if we vastly reduce the no's of animals, this gets rid of the problem. The NFU's stance WRT the problem may be a pragmatic one . Take the example of the fuel protestors, who believe that expensive fuel is crippling their business - cheaper fuel will help them out, in the same way subsidies help farmers. The problem is that transport is such a competitive industry that any reduction in fixed costs will be swallowed up by undercutting; if you gave them the fuel they'd just carry on doing it cheaper and cheaper till they were back to sqaure one. Now, if you got rid of half the lorries.... all of a sudden the boot's on the other foot.

The same is true for farming, increased subsidies are just prolonging the agony, perhaps the NFU think that vastly reducing the no.s of stock will create a shortage, increasing the value of produce and livestock, whilst also providing a govt. sponsored redundancy scheme for the less efficient members of the industry.

Just a thought.

June 3 2001

Hi all just back from Worcester Truth rally. I also met Di and Pat there which was great . Plenty of people turned up and loads of media coverage Sky and Carlton plus Hereford and Worcs radio so watch the news later . The press seem really keen for more information now; a channel 4 team is supposed to be coming out to film the burial site somtime next week . The Tory, Lib/Dem and UK inde candidates all turned up too I suspect they were hoping for extra press coverage rather than concerned with getting the truth, although a UKIP canvasser explained they would have vaccinated.

June 3 2001

UKIP have been pressing for vaccination since as far back as February/March. Richard North predicted this current crisis then. Earlier in the outbreak, UKIP held a serious of open non political public meetings to advise anyone who attended about the outbreak, and how without vaccination it would become an epidemic. I attended one of these meetings in my area and found it both interesting and informative as well as realistic. It was about three days later that I found out it had been organised by a political party!! I think therefore that your UKIP chap would be with you today to push for vaccination rather than for press coverage

June 3 2001

Talking to him (Mr Pedrick) made me think how many farmers must be feeling the same and really suffering now. Their fields and barns silent and empty, no animals to tend to, nothing to get up in the morning for - and dreadful images of their creatures being slaughtered (and a feeling that they betrayed them by not being able to protect them). The sort of gentle, quiet, bewildered farmer like Mr. Pedrick is turning his anger in on himself and becoming very withdrawn and depressed. It's really important that people like him get the opportunity to talk about their loss and anger if they want to.

June 3 2001

I suppose it is inevitable that there are sheep with antibodies to Pan Asian O type running around. MAFF are bound to slaughter them under the current policy - can't possibly have healthy animals with immunity running loose! I suppose it is now endemic in our sheep.

June 3 2001

The main point we must concentrate on is the illegality of the contiguous cull. The suspicious activities of Maff, the booking of hotels, planning of disposal logistics etc, are not perhaps related to further "planned " outbreaks as suggested on the board, but in connection with the planned serological testing of sheep.

Information we are receiving suggests that this is being planned far in advance, and will allow the possible systematic destuction of vast numbers of sheep and the ordered disposal of the carcasses. The eventual scale of the cull depends on the proportion of sheep which have FMD antibodies; anyone like to hazard a guess? The contingency plans and logistics being put in place suggest Maff are expecting to find more than one or two sero positive sheep, ie sheep which are immune to the disease but pose no risk of spreading it. Whether this is part of a conspiracy to vastly reduce sheep no.s and cripple the farming industry, or simply the logical conclusion of MAFF's crackpot logic, is anyone's guess. Answers on a postcard please as our old friend Noel Edmonds used to say on Swapshop.

Ultimately the reasoning behind these actions is immaterial; the fact is they are going to do it, and I'm not sure that the will exists within the farming community to stop them.

June 3 2001

The situation has changed. All death squads now very polite and friendly. BUT THE POLICY IS THE SAME The dales are being cleared of all animals.

June 3 2001

...........at Tewkesbury they transported the sheep from an infected farm down through the town and out to the M5 and on down to Exeter. The animals are slaughtered on the farms and loaded onto the 25 ton artic lorries which are NOT sealed - they are open topped with a sheet pulled over although some people have said early on you could stand on the motorway bridges and see open topped lorries with dead animals in! The back door is supposed to be sealed with foam sealer. I've seen them going along with a cow's leg sticking out from under the sheet - AND dripping with blood/gunge. The back door of one lorry opened on a dual carriageway near Gloucester leaving dead animals on the road. After that I noticed that the lorries travelled in twos or threes with a MAFF Range Rover following up the rear. The lorries (trailers really) are not supposed to be used for carting animal feeds or grain for milling wheat - rumour has it they will be destroyed when all this is over.

June 3 2001

(pre 1996 regulations about cattle feed ) ......as the fishing industry went into decline the renderers looked around for other things to render, like abattoir waste and started including a percentage of that in low price fish/meat/bone meal which was being fed to dairy cows. This all crept up on farmers because it was the miller who supplied a compound for animal feed that purchased the stuff. The farmer was only told (then) the amount of oil, protein and fibre in the resulting compound. Now the law has been changed and farmers get a list of ingredients in order of highest inclusion rate first. Actual percentages are still thought of as a Trade secret by National Compounders. Meat and bone meal always used to be a fertiliser NOT an animal feed. The industry is regulated by the Government who gave permission for a new American method of rendering in 1985 'ish. Instead of rendering a complete batch, the Government gave permission for a continuous process and at a lower temperature. - So the buck stops with the Government who is using your money to sort out the mess. Don't blame the farmers for accepting the compensation any more than you should blame a patient of the NHS who is compensated when things go wrong.

Ironic that the renderers who caused the BSE epidemic are still making a handsome profit whilst the farmers, through no fault of their own, are going to the wall fast as a result of other peoples incompetence.

Once rendered the end product is meat and bone meal. Deemed unsafe for animal consumption or fertiliser due to possible BSE prions . It is stored in Army and similar Government hangers and warehouses until it is taken to power stations to be burnt. Next time you turn on the light, think of the poor cow that is producing your electricity! Not up to scratch as to whether or not they are still burning - I think they are still burying in big order but don't know where. I'm sure others know.

June 3 2001

Extracts from the PMD Inbox - June 2 2001

The Inbox for June 2 (latest entries nearest the top)......testing in Dudden__ more disquiet about false/positive results __ sheep that overwintered in Cheshire and have now gone back to Derbyshire and other areas 30% have tested positive to FMD antibodies __ angry reaction to "hysterical" website and praise for culling team __,appeal for evidence about Maff intimidation__ a haiku __ 3200 farms - over half the farms in Cumbria have now gone __ disgust at NFU and decision not to allow back on the farm anyone involved in the destruction, __ news from Skipton confirms fear that any sheep found with antibodies will result in flocks killed after election__a thought about the trauma only fully real when one is directly affected __Cumbrian fell sheep (Herdwicks) threatened __4 emails about the Browns and the bullying tactics to make them agree finally to having all their sheep killed __Maff's apparent ability to see into the future explained (rooms booked in advance at Scotch Corner Hotel N Yorks and Reeth) __ confirmed case in Keswick - footpaths closed again... __Waughs' farm pigs developed FMD only after visit from Maff official, some sympathy for the Waughs but also some first hand knowledge of his practices __ Dudden Valley under threat,

June 2 2001

Today we have had some of our sheep blood tested by a Maff vet because we are under form D restrictions being less than 3 km from a confirmed case. I questioned the vet about these false positive results and he said they expect up to 5% of sheep to show a false positive result and that is ok, but if they show more than 5% then Maff will come back and test the whole flock. ( but this was only one vet's theory and I don't trust Maff any more).

June 2 2001

Thanks for the feedback so far. Yes, what was said about Black Hall Farm was right. I don't know any more than that. They have started testing at Sella Farm in the Duddon. My neighbour does not intend to bring his sheep down until middle of June. It does not seem to make any difference if they are tested on or off the fell. If they find anything he'll go and they'll be at my door next. No-one has had any info. I'm absolutely stuck on what we can do next. They have the farmers in a stranglehold and unless there is a change of policy whereby sheep that have recovered are accepted for UK markets, they'll just have to comply. I know it is easier for me, I've only got 14 healthy non-commercial and mostly ancient pet sheep, have managed to refuse the vets entry for inspection so far and I'll continue to do so. I've read all 'do's and don'ts', got the barbed wire and padlocks in place, practiced camcorder skills, got the sheep to come when called to be locked in without panic. It's hard to imagine that one day there could be a full-scale army attack on our barn to kill a few ancient bits of mutton, a toothless tup and, of course there is Solo as well, our unplanned 'persil-white'lamb. If anything she should have been a Herdwick but mother must have had a fling with a passing Texel. I hope that, if all fails, there may be some of you out there willing to help us resist.

June 2 2001

2.06.01 Very chilling news just in from Cheshire - sheep that overwintered in Cheshire and have now gone back to Derbyshire and other areas, were blood tested and 30% have tested positive to FMD antibodies, but no culling will take place until until Friday 8 June.!!! Make of that what you will. Just Taken from the FFA web site

June 2 2001

I am appalled at the hysterical nature of your website. I own a small estate of 8 farms, of which 5 were taken out by infection confirmed on one 2 weeks ago; 2 of the remaining 3 were culled in the last few days, one contiguous, the other confirmed. All of us were impressed with the people with whom we had to deal and by the way they carried out a bloody awful job. On our home farm my wife and I rounded up the sheep (our only stock) and they were handled well by skilled stockmen. Yes the shooting was not nice,but they did it as well as you could wish. Your site suggests that this never happens and is therefore grossly misleading. In this area in recent weeks three farms resisted the contiguous cull (one being one of mine). In all 3 cases the disease has been confirmed, thus causing neighbours to feel aggrieved that they are now contiguous. Like it or not that to me suggests the need for the contiguous policy.

June 2 2001

Would it please be possible for you to put out on your website a call to anyone who has first hand experience or can produce authenticated evidence of MAFF intimidation and cruelty during the cull. Would they please call Pam and Simon Burbage on 01209 860305 who are trying to arrange a visit to Aleyn Addy the Solicitor in Exeter to make witnessed statements. If there are enough people from up country we will try to organise this in areas. There is a considerable amount of urgency with this to try to get all this into the press before next Thursday.

If you think this is not a feasible idea please disregard. Heard today that ADAS bodies working with the movement licensing have been asked to sign the Official Secrets Act. Pat R

June 2 2001

little tiny haiku.

"IF YOU COME FOR MINE,

MAFF-MAN, LESS THAN MAN,

YOU WILL SLEEP IN MY FIELD TONIGHT."

June 2 2001

Over three thousand two hundred farms in Cumbria alone have all gone = that is OVER HALF OF ALL FARMS IN CUMBRIA! This information came from the Cumberland news who have had to dig around as MAFF (naturally) say they do not have the exact figures! Well they would wouldn't they! Les Armstrong local NFU is still insisting that MAFF are not COOKING THE BOOKS figure wise! ...................Has anyone else noticed how the grass is growing and the place is looking untidy already? Cumbria will be a wilderness if they remove all of the farm animals.

June 2 2001

I don't know if I would/ will ever allow anyone, or a company, back on my farm - who'd participated in assisting the unnecessary destruction of lives, businesses and animals. I'm also totally disgusted with the NFU. I can't believe their silence.

June 2 2001

Just received this from a friend picked up from a sheep news board:

> "LAST NIGHT 31/05/01 I WAS PHONED BY LOCAL FRIENDS WHO HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ARMY PERSONNEL IN SKIPTON.

THE ARMY HAVE TAKEN OVER THE WHOLE OF THE INGLETON HOTEL THERE PLUS TWO OTHERS IN THE SAME CHAIN ONE IN DERBYSHIRE AND THE OTHER IN LINCOLNSHIRE. IN LINCOLNSHIRE THEY HAVE ALREADY DUG OUT AN OLD AIRFIELD SITE TO RECEIVE THE CULLED STOCK. THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO BLOOD TEST ALL STOCK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AFTER THE ELECTION AND TO SLAUGHTER ON SUSPICION ANY ANIMAL SUSPECTED OF HAVING OR HAVING HAD FMD."

June 2 2001

......it is only now.........when my own County is under threat........that I truly realise the horror you have all been (and still ARE) suffering. I thought I was deeply involved, but now realise I am only just beginning to understand. Given these thoughts.........how the hell do we expect the apathetic, soap-loving majority to wake up? It is truly frightening to think that they are going about their business, blissfully unaware that there will soon be no livestock left in this Nation ..........and no farmers either, if they don't wake from their stupor, and stand beside us.

June 2 2001

Soon after the election the indications are that there's going to be a cull of Cumbrian fell sheep. Let's try to stop them if we can. Some of the Herdwicks have been in Cumbria for 500 years. Venue will probably be the fells in the Broughton-in-Furness area. M6 to Lancaster / Kendal. A590 heading for Barrow-in-Furness. A595 Broughton-in- Furness. Know where we are now in case we need you? I think we will need you............(another)Heard they have booked into Reeth some time ago!

June 2 2001

(Re the Browns' cull after extreme pressure from Maff) Every time I hear another case like this it just makes me think no wonder the Nazis got away with it..................I think we need a list of examples of MAFF bullying techniques, that we can distribute with the help packs. Like the ' if you let us take the sheep you can keep the cattle' line .... We have all seen them in action time and again. But other people find such blatant dishonesty hard to believe. perhaps if we gave them a list the stunts MAFF have pulled it might help them.............(another) Jane Barribal has spoken to Judith Bell of Burgess Salmon and apparently Richard Brown decided to let MAFF take the sheep. He did not ring the solicitors first as instructed. MAFF must have contacted the Browns at some point today and put the pressure on and he caved in. Apparently the army drove straight in without disinfecting!

If MAFF agreed to leave their beef cattle, then we can presume that all the animals are healthy. I am so angry about this but suspected that this might happen if MAFF kept up the intimidation.

I suggest that people leave Mr Brown alone -no doubt his wife and family will need to stay in contact for now. Val has our numbers if she feels ready to talk. I feel so desperately sorry for them..................(another) I spoke to Mrs Brown initially & she was a nervous wreck caused by MAFF bullying tactics! When they stormed the farm, they told the Browns "unless you let us take your sheep, we will kill your cattle (Belgian Blues) now!!" No wonder Mr Brown gave his sheep up! However, I bet they lose their cattle after June 8th!!!

June 2 2001

The way MAFF can see into the future is down to blood tests--just test an area and you are bound to come up with a positive in one animal (anyone know the false positive %?) and away you go......(another) have on good authority maff officals have booked large number of rooms Scotch Corner Hotel A1/A66 Nth Yorks Also activity around Reeth/Grinton Anyone any information?

June 2 2001

Confirmed case yesterday in Keswick (interesting theory at beginning of week on postings re outbreaks after a bank holiday). 'Dangerous contact' fields of sheep going today - farmer whose stock are going phoned to let me know (yes, they have legal info and help pack). They'll fight tooth and nail to keep their remaining stock but didn't feel that they could hang on to the 'dangerous contact'lot. Maff had meeting with farmers by valley in last few days to explain re-opening of fells. Borrowdale meeting occurred before announcement of new outbreak. Some farmers walked out. Buttermere meeting happened after the Keswick outbreak announced. No idea what happened there! Most of footpaths previously re-opened around Keswick closed again in last 24 hours.

June 2 2001

A friend who deals with Waugh has just been talking to me about this very matter! He says that while chaotic, Waugh is not the cause of the outbreak. Swill supplied to his farm was also supplied to his neighbour and that farm did not get FMD but was only killed as a Dangerous Contact.

He also said that the most Media friendly of the brothers could not do the interviews because he is seriously ill at the moment.

Finally he said that in February, before the outbreak an RSPCA inspector and a MAFF official came and inspected five pens of pigs. It was those five pens of pigs that got FMD! I understand, but I will have to double check, that these two men had previously been working in the vicinity where the sheep originated which were returned from France with FMD positive samples. (Until MAFF managed to have these tests negated and then had the blood samples destroyed before they could be re tested!) I believe that it points to MAFF itself being responsble for infecting Waugh's farm.

I am receiving further information from this friend and will post it when it arrives. He is a knowledgeable farmer who has spent much of his time over the last few months trying to expose MAFF's double dealing. He is worth listening to. Unfortunately he also confirms that vast culls are planned for immediately after the election: in Swaledale, Exmoor and Dartmoor to name but three areas. He also said that there are large numbers of diggers standing by in Norfolk to start work on a huge burial site. We MUST alert farmers in these targeted areas to their rights.

June 2 2001

Reported to the RSPCA 16th December RSPCA told to stay away by Northumberland Council Trading Standards visited on the 22December Suggestions that trading standards wanted immediate prosecution BUT WERE TALKED OUT of taking action by MAFF are denied by the ministry 24th January a pre arranged annual inspection by Trading standards Lesions on the pigs dated to days after this visit "

Bobby Waugh has got a lot of explaining to do I would think.

June 2 2001

He did not farm pigs in the conventional sense, he was supplied with cull sows by cheal meats , these animals would be collected from other pig farms in ones and twos in a lorry that would travel 100's of miles round the country. This is the most likely way that waugh's pigs came into contact with FMD, the lorries transporting the pigs would also be used for sheep, and if there wasn't a full load, pigs and sheep could have been in the lorry at the same time.

The unfortunate animals would then be deposited at mr waughs run down premises to start their new career as waste disposal units. Remember, the waughs would probably have made the majority of their income from collecting the kitchen waste, this of course would be mainly cash, the pigs were just a byproduct.

Some of the animals would be pregnant, but waugh would have no idea when they were due to pig, which is why animals were giving birth in pens with other pigs.

This type of operation, one which involves the unregulated feeding of waste food of unknown origin, the prolonged long distance transport of live animals , and dubious standards of welfare is precisely the thing that has given british farming such a bad name, it is hardly likely to inspire consumer confidence, or enhance our cause if we are seen to support such practices.

June 2 2001

If you need an area to concentrate on S. Cumbria, the Duddon Valley area needs it. Although in N. Cumbria they are already thinking about moving on, South Cumbria and the Furness area has been put on hold for the moment and will be targeted soon. When the first outbreak occurred at Cockley Beck,top of the Duddon Valley, Central Lakes, the first reaction of MAFF HQ London was to wipe out the whole valley. It was only the hefted Herdwick flocks that stopped them at the time. They wiped out thousands of Herdwicks which were clean. There have only been visual inspections of the hill flocks since then, but MAFF intends to bloodtest them AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN FOR SHEARING, NOT BEFORE. It is suspected that FMD is on the fells, farmers have been told not to touch them or bring them down until early June. This is when the killing will start again relentlessly. If Antibodies found, recovered animals will not do, the whole flock will have to go. Farmers will be told that no exports can resume unless there is no trace of the disease as it will be picked up in customer countries overseas. I don't know how this will work, once a flock is brought down, found FMD pos., is the whole farm then considered infected ? neighbouring farms as well ? This is how they can wipe the whole lot out, "legitimately"......(another) Cumberland News stated today that any positive blood tests would then be treated as Infected Premises and contiguous cull would also be applied! So, yes, it looks like they will be able to wipe out further huge numbers...............(another) Let's tell the group what happened in the Duddon valley. The infected farm was Black Hall at Seathwaite. The cattle were infected with F&M. The sheep were not. The sheep were 2,000?? Herdwicks whose bloodline went back to the monks of Furness Abbey, I'm told. They killed all of them. There were no gene banks at the time. It was the familiar messy "blood running down the road" Maff massacre. We have to try to stop them doing this again.

June 2 2001

Tonight I talked to a friend who farms in the Borders and who has dealt with the Waugh's over the years. He says while they are rather chaotic, they are not ill intentioned and are most definitely not responsible for initiating the outbreak. They do feed swill, but so does a neighbouring farm, and they do so from the same supplier. However only the Waugh's farm got the disease, the other was killed out as a Dangerous Contact.....................(another)IF the source of the outbreak was a pig farm in Northumberland , then WHY was it that the North East of England , the East of Scotland , and the East of England were not the areas decimated . IF as the Authorities claim , there was a delay in the onset of the disease being reported , then with the ability of pigs to produce incredible columns of virus these areas should have been those hit first and hardest . IF the source was a pig farm , why does this form of the virus attack sheep first , cattle second , and pigs last .

June 2 2001

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